Is it correct for a Salafy Daa’ee to mix with the Hizbees in order to rectify them?

Is it correct for a Salafy Daa’ee to mix with the Hizbees in order to rectify them?
A question posed to The Carrier of the flag of Jarh wa Ta’deel
The Noble Shaikh, Shaikh Rabee’ Bin Haadee Al Madkhalee
(May Allah preserve him)

Translated by Abu ‘Abdis Salaam Siddiq Al Juyaanee
Originally posted  
Q: (Is it correct for) a caller to Allah (a daa’ee) who is upon the Minhaj (Methodology) of the Salaf, to mix from time to time with a partisan (i.e. Hizbee) group from the Hizbees with the intention of learning their mistakes, secrets, secret affairs and corrupt ideologies (in order) to then free himself from them and make clear to the (Islaamic) Nation the mistakes (of these Hizbee groups) so that they may be warned from them?
A: By Allah I say, O my brother, it is sufficient for you that those Hizbee groups that you mix with have already spread their misguided ideologies and that the ‘Ulamah have already refuted them; do not expose (and open) yourself up to lost! Verily, many people have entered into them for this same exact reason which after some time resulted in them being engulfed and swept away by the matter and (subsequently) finished. So the Believer must beware and cautious. The Salaf did not mix with the Jahmiyyah, the Mu’tazilah, nor the Khawaarij in order to rectify them! Therefore it is upon you to be upon the way of the Salaf, may Allah bless you.
Evil sittings and keeping evil company will harm you. The example of the righteous sitting and the evil sitting is like the example of the merchant of fine perfumes and the ironsmith. The merchant of fine perfumes may give you a gift, or you will find with him a good smell, or you may purchase some perfume from him. As for the ironsmith, he will either burn your garment and/or you will find from him a disgusting odor. So it is upon you O my brothers, to sit with those who are righteous, the people of piety, those who abstain from matters/things out of fear of falling into that which is forbidden, those who are abstentious from worldly affairs and/or that which does not benefit them, and those who have respect for the Sunnah (i.e. those who are upon the Sunnah). These are the righteous sittings and gatherings. Beware of (and stay away from) the sitting with the people of desires, for verily they have with them misconceptions. It is possible that they may gradually allure and temp you. One may say to you, “enter amongst them and rectify them from the inside”, but they almost never rectify themselves except for that and he whom Allah wills.
Or do you think that you will learn about them (by doing what you have mentioned)?! This is not the way of Islaam; Islaam does not support this, may Allah bless you. I advise you not to mix with them no matter the excuse. This is because their evil has already been widespread, publicized and known about until it has reached the level of explosions, destruction and devastation. I have already written and refuted Sayid Qutub as well as the Ikhwaan (i.e. the Muslim Brotherhood). (In fact) they themselves has already written, made clear (and illustrated their corrupt ideas) in their own books, while they perceive not. You have been sufficed O my brother. By Allah, (this is the case) except if there is a Salafy scholar who embarks upon giving da’wah to one whom he hopes will accept the truth, then this is for him, and ok for him (the Salafy SCHOLAR). Rather, it is incumbent upon him to give him da’wah and to clarify to him the truth. As for the Salafy who is weak in his knowledge and personality, then it is upon him to stay far away from them so that he may protect and keep safe what he has with him from the truth, and there is nothing comparable to safety.



  1. Ibn Shahid said,

    April 11, 2008 at 8:04 am

    As salaamu ‘alaykum

    Wat happened akhee? RIT courses getting too tough 🙂 No time for blogging anymore?

  2. Metacom said,

    June 19, 2008 at 12:42 am

    Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation 🙂 Anyway … nice blog to visit.

    cheers, Metacom.

  3. Abu Usamah al-Aswad al-Eastside Detroit said,

    June 24, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    As Salaamu Alaykum

    According to Arab News

    Not only did King Abdullah and Mufti Abdul-Azziz sat on a panel with Sufi, Asharis, they also shared the stage with the former Iranian Present Rafsanjani who is Shiah, specifically for interfaith dialogue.

    King Abdullah also visited and embraced Pope Benedict at the vatican. This is the same Pope Benedict who favorably quoted a Byzantine emperor as saying.

    “Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached,”

    Mufti Abdul-Azziz endorsed the king’s project and said “the whole Ummah was looking up to the benevolent king to take the lead and bringing different COMMUNITIES of the world together.” adding:

    “We cannot live in an isolation. We need to cooperate with others to make the most of advancement in all aspects of life.”

    What of the affection that King Abdullah has shown by going to the pope embracing him and sitting with him and bringing him expensive gifts talking about inter-faith cooperation.

    How is it permissable for Salafis to visit the pope and show honor by bringing gifts.

    This was a religious meeting not solely a polictical connotation, as the context wasn’t about Saudi Arabia and Vatican City relations, but Muslim and Christian cooperation. I’m NOT asking you to speak against recognized Saudi Muslim leadership

    Neither I am not talking about whether or not someone advised the Saudi King in private I’m speaking about the principle. Either it’s permissiable for a Muslim leader to visit the pope to discuss cooperation on RELIGIOUS matters or it’s not permissable.

    Clearly Mufti Abdul-Azziz (the highest ranking living Salafi scholar) thinks so as he endorsed the king’s project and said “the whole Ummah was looking up to the benevolent king to take the lead and bringing different COMMUNITIES of the world together.

    This contradicts your entire post

    • listenandobey said,

      March 9, 2009 at 3:45 pm

      wailaikum salaam wa rahmatullah

      In the link that you have sent i dont see the quote of mufti abdul-aziz “the whole Ummah was looking up to the benevolent king to take the lead and bringing different COMMUNITIES of the world together.” adding:

      “We cannot live in an isolation. We need to cooperate with others to make the most of advancement in all aspects of life.”

      And if i was to believe that he said it, doesnt make it the truth. Verily, this daawa-tus-salafiyyah does not accept blindly the actions of anyone, no matter the religious status of the shaikh.

      Please provide me proof for the shaikh’s quote you have quoted.

  4. March 27, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    The post is about a “Salafi Dai’ee mixing with Hizbees to know their secrets,etc…” Please read the question that is posed to Shaykh Rabee hafidhahullah and his answer.

    Secondly, there’s a difference between a Dai’ee and a Scholar(Mufti). Sometimes for diplomatic, political or other reasons it is permissible for a Scholar to give Da’wah to Ahlul Bid’ah like how Ibn Abbaas radiAllaahu anhu gave Da’wah to Khawaarij and even debated with them.

    Infact I read in one of the newspapers that the Mufti hafidhahullah infact said that the purpose of interfaith dialogue is to call Christians to Islam. So, he hafidhahullah went with that purpose. His statement was the same as the fatwa of the permanent committee under the leadership of Shaykh Ibn Baz rahimahullah that “Interfaith-dialogue” according to Islam means calling non-Muslims to Islam. It’s not how Innovators like Turabi of Sudan and others think about it.

    Finally, the Mufti, Shaykh Aal-shaykh hafidhahullah, is definitely one of the seniormost Salafee Scholars alive today but he is not considered “The Seniormost” or “The Highest Ranking”. There are many other senior Scholars like Shaykhs Fawzaan, Ghudayaan, Rabee’, Luhaydaan and others.

    WAllaahu aalam.

  5. abdulwalee said,

    October 26, 2011 at 8:07 am

    salaams very good post and refutation

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